cheesehead wrote:Being a novice skier, the thing that really made this all work was realizing how much force you have to use to tip with that inside ski. You have to move your whole body with just that tipping motion.
Perhaps that is the source of your confusion. Inside foot tipping is the movement that gets the kinetic chain moving (and it continues to lead) but it doesn't need the large force you are describing. Start with the small muscles responsible for tipping to the LTE (and continue tipping) and momentum will do the heavy lifting. The only pushing you might feel would be when the ankles push/press against the inside of the boot.
cheesehead wrote:The question is did I say to "drive your knee."
Yes. Pushing the knees and driving the knees is the same thing.
cheesehead wrote:Another approach to that concept is the one outlined in ACBES 2, I think, where the stationary skier tries to pull the skis together and the instructor gives opposite resistance to push the inside ski away from the stance ski.
That is an inside foot management drill that is unrelated to the knee pushing drill you suggest.
cheesehead wrote:And many times in PMTS books and the forum it is stated that you have to put extra effort in tipping the free ski and much less effort in tipping the stance ski.
Yes, because of the tendency for BTE dominance. But this has nothing to do with pushing the knees.
cheesehead wrote:That is how I try to ski and how I was suggesting to get the kids to experience it (the first demo I described has been shown to me by a PMTS instructor, the second demo is a published PMTS demo).
As far as I know the knee pushing drill is not in any of the PMTS material and I've never seen a PMTS coach use it. In PMTS we don't push or drive the knees.
The incorrect focus on knee movement has been covered extensively on the forum. Here's an old post (2008):
h.harb wrote:Here we go again, HH says:
if you focus on lateral knee movement you will NEVER get it.
Exceptional skiing comes from using the feet, ankles and supporting it with the “Compete Upper body”, (counter acting and counter balancing) supporting movements. It has nothing to do with knees, CM focus or leg extension.
It has everything to do with tipping, flexing, and supporting upper body movements.
Here's another good thread to read:
More tipping, it's not about the size of your muscles