HH Blog entry on ski boot alignment March 17, 2015

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HH Blog entry on ski boot alignment March 17, 2015

Postby tarnaby » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:00 pm

I apologize in advance if this is something that has already been covered. Here is the link:

http://harbskisysems.blogspot.ca/2015/0 ... -isnt.html

There is a photo of 5 Italian ski instructors. 3 of them show a-frames in their turn. Here is my question:

Do such a-frames always mean the skier has bad alignment; or can they stem from just bad technique? Or put another way, if the 3 a-framing instructors had boots with perfect alignment, would their a-frames disappear? (Or would they keep a-framing b/c, perhaps, they have no LTE in their skiing, etc.?)
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Re: HH Blog entry on ski boot alignment March 17, 2015

Postby jbotti » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:00 pm

The answer is that perfect alignment will not alleviate imperfect technique. Skiers that are very BTE dominant and/or use a good amount of knee drive can have perfect alignment (naturally or corrected) and can/will have a pronounced A frame. As movement patterns change with proper alignment the A-frame will go away. Having said that with naturally very knocked knee skiers even with perfect technique (LTE dominant skiing) that A Frame will still be present without proper correction.
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Re: HH Blog entry on ski boot alignment March 17, 2015

Postby sgarrozzo » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:07 am

jbotti wrote:The answer is that perfect alignment will not alleviate imperfect technique. Skiers that are very BTE dominant and/or use a good amount of knee drive can have perfect alignment (naturally or corrected) and can/will have a pronounced A frame. As movement patterns change with proper alignment the A-frame will go away. Having said that with naturally very knocked knee skiers even with perfect technique (LTE dominant skiing) that A Frame will still be present without proper correction.




Thank you John,
I asked the same thing to HH directly in the blog.
How could he be sure that depended only from alignment and not from bad habits?
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Re: HH Blog entry on ski boot alignment March 17, 2015

Postby DougD » Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:21 am

Only guessing, but as these are demo team skiers one assumes they're all trying to ski the same style. These are Italy's best ski instructors, presumably very adept in their recommended techniques (however limited those may be vs. PMTS). Uncorrected biomechanical differences is a more likely explanation than inconsistency of technique.

P.S. Confirming John's post, I have naturally neutral alignment on one leg and corrected-to-neutral alignment on the other. I don't typically show an A-frame, but I would if chose to ski with knee drive.
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Re: HH Blog entry on ski boot alignment March 17, 2015

Postby jbotti » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:38 am

sgarrozzo wrote:
jbotti wrote:The answer is that perfect alignment will not alleviate imperfect technique. Skiers that are very BTE dominant and/or use a good amount of knee drive can have perfect alignment (naturally or corrected) and can/will have a pronounced A frame. As movement patterns change with proper alignment the A-frame will go away. Having said that with naturally very knocked knee skiers even with perfect technique (LTE dominant skiing) that A Frame will still be present without proper correction.




Thank you John,
I asked the same thing to HH directly in the blog.
How could he be sure that depended only from alignment and not from bad habits?


Not sure exactly what your question is, but if you are asking how one can tell when it is alignment versus technique, the answer is that purely from Video its harder (although Harald and Diana have great eyes). At PMTS camps, students get measured and have their alignment done at the indoor alignment center. After this, on snow if they are A framing still it will almost always be about technique. PMTS coaches with great eyes can see the movement patterns and assess whether more canting is necessary or if its all about technique (or the lack thereof).
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Re: HH Blog entry on ski boot alignment March 17, 2015

Postby Max_501 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:39 pm

sgarrozzo wrote:How could he be sure that depended only from alignment and not from bad habits?


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Re: HH Blog entry on ski boot alignment March 17, 2015

Postby sgarrozzo » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:08 pm

jbotti wrote:
Not sure exactly what your question is, but if you are asking how one can tell when it is alignment versus technique, the answer is that purely from Video its harder (although Harald and Diana have great eyes). At PMTS camps, students get measured and have their alignment done at the indoor alignment center. After this, on snow if they are A framing still it will almost always be about technique. PMTS coaches with great eyes can see the movement patterns and assess whether more canting is necessary or if its all about technique (or the lack thereof).



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