l2ski wrote:I see my mistake and should have been more careful before posting.
I should have been looking at the knees relative to the ankles or the shins being angled forward.
HeluvaSkier wrote:
Actually, what you should have been focused on is "what are the skis doing when the skier is deeply flexed?" The answer is very little. The skier is light. By the time the stance ski is pressured in the turn, the skier is forward over the front of the ski, because they have pulled their feet back.
it seems to me that Neureuther is often in the back seat in transition, yet
he can still pressure the front of the skis and pull off the tight arcs. Is this possible because of the energy that
he has from the release and speed at which he is skiing?
l2ski wrote:If I had experienced such a high energy release then I would have known the answer.
Max_501 wrote:l2ski wrote:If I had experienced such a high energy release then I would have known the answer.
Check out this thread. Read HH's posts at least a couple of times. Very good stuff there!
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h.harb wrote:
Max501 asked me about his tip lifting at the end of some arcs, from his video, at or during the release. I see nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with it. I reviewed video and photos of the best skiers in the world, including all mountain and racers. In almost every turn series there is lifting of the old stance ski at the end of arcs. I find myself, in many photos in my ?Anyone can be an Expert Skier? book 2, doing it and also in recent videos I'm shooting for my new Essentials of Skiing DVD.
In high level skiing, extreme flexing and even a tip lift is not an out of balance state. For intermediate skiers it is an out of balance state, as intermedaite skiers don't generate the energy to re-center from that kind of release. Intermediate skiers have a real strong adjustment process to deal with when they sit this far back with low hips.
I find in my own all mountain skiing, I often get a low hip and lifted tip situation at the release. When skiing fast on 40 to 45 degree slopes, pressure and load develop quickly, and if there are terrain features as well, such as bumps, soft snow piles, the load doubles and that energy needs to be absorbed, distributed, and redirected.
In an attempt to spread out the forces, and keep the skis moving to the next arc, at the bottom of the arc, (I think Joubert called it gliding) rather than take the forces all at once, which can lead to hard hits, more flexing and some controlled intentional jetting of the skis can be beneficial or even necessary. This is easily reeled in, as the forces and loads on the body at release are strong, and can to re-directed to catch the hips up quickly. So even if you are back and the skis are moving forward, experts can deal with it skillfully. In intermediate skiing, more muscular effort by the skier, is needed to re-center, if such extreme positions are achieved. These re-centering movements at the high levels are very athletic movements, not often dealt with by ski instructors, so it?s not surprising that some confusion and misunderstanding prevails about these topics and these situations.
Some instructors will try to do MA on this and say it is bad technique. You need to be there and ski it at this speed, then you can talk!!!
l2ski wrote:Thanks, there is very good stuff in that link.
Max_501 wrote:l2ski wrote:Thanks, there is very good stuff in that link.
This topic has been covered many times in the past so if you search the forums there are many other threads to read.
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